tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7276278342039529509.post8596649346737887834..comments2024-03-18T00:53:33.065+11:00Comments on in all honesty: the big pictureJeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01538502318975037711noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7276278342039529509.post-64232793211649047462009-04-05T20:48:00.000+10:002009-04-05T20:48:00.000+10:00More excellent food for thought ...More excellent food for thought ...Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01538502318975037711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7276278342039529509.post-69530899155499841312009-04-05T18:20:00.000+10:002009-04-05T18:20:00.000+10:00"I do this at an unconscious level, which is why i..."I do this at an unconscious level, which is why it didn't occur to me when I wrote that other post."<BR/><BR/>It's a wonderful thing to do things like this in such an unconscious way, isn't it?! Makes me so glad for good models and teachers. I think I do the same. It's easy to forget in one way because it's so hard and can seem a bit more abstract from the task when you've got a lot of Biblical data to process. On the other hand, it becomes so second-nature that filtering things and considering things in the light of other doctrines and the whole flow of salvation history stops being a separate step - it just gets integrated with all the other prep. So I think your list of things to consider a passage in the light of is really helpful because it makes it a more conscious step. I guess I've just tended to think about it in terms of general categories something along the lines of things about God, ourselves, the gospel and biblical theology more generally is probably the filter I use the most (because seeing things in the list of salvation history can mkae such a difference). Not that different to your list, I guess. It is a hard task to pin down though, I think, and something that is not an easy when you first start!<BR/><BR/>Becmattnbechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01885771993409495143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7276278342039529509.post-84718249243810593812009-04-02T07:43:00.000+11:002009-04-02T07:43:00.000+11:00Good point, Bec. You're right, of course - easily ...Good point, Bec. You're right, of course - easily forgotten, but the most important! Otherwise we offer human solutions - techniques and wise observations, even if they are extracted from proof-texts - but no bigger, wider picture of God and his dealings with us.<BR/><BR/>I was listening to an Ed Welch talk yesterday where he said that, with an issue of anger, he would once have sent someone home to look up all the verses on anger. Now he would get them to read John 13, where Jesus washes the disciples' feet. Dealing with the deeper problem - placing yourself over others in authority and anger rather than taking the place of a servant like Jesus - rather than the surface one.<BR/><BR/>I would have liked to make this point much bigger - that you have to place your topic in the wider biblical and systematic theological context - but this would have been very intimidating. But it's true, isn't it? You can't teach a topic well without this. The way you teach it will always be shaped by your broader understanding of the Bible and your theological assumptions.<BR/><BR/>I do this at an unconscious level, which is why it didn't occur to me when I wrote that other post. But I will always put any verses I read in a wider context - through a grid something like this:<BR/><BR/>- God made us for his glory<BR/>- God is sovereign<BR/>- God reveals himself to us through his word<BR/>- God gives us grace through the death of his Son; we are saved and grow through grace by the work of his Spirit<BR/><BR/>As you can see, I could keep going!! Perhaps you could simplify it and say<BR/><BR/>- sovereignty<BR/>- grace<BR/>- glory<BR/><BR/>That's how Paul Tripp does it in the book I'm reading. There would be different ways to do it.<BR/><BR/>What do you reckon?Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01538502318975037711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7276278342039529509.post-23904203916268891772009-04-02T02:45:00.000+11:002009-04-02T02:45:00.000+11:00It's interesting that this point is the one you fo...It's interesting that this point is the one you forgot to put in the original, Jean. I find that this step is sometimes the most important, but easiest to forget stage in practice too. Sometimes it's a hard one to nail down exactly how things fit, particularly in a deep, real way rather than a superficial way. But, of course, it's such an important step because of the bandaid-ing wounds point you make.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing your behind-the-scenes prep. Good mentoring!!<BR/><BR/>Becmattnbechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01885771993409495143noreply@blogger.com